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Posted: Oct 13 2005, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE (... sarang @ Oct 12 2005, 08:51 PM)
[color=purple]The conspirators had brought kerosene with them. They threw a bedwrap around the Queen, probably not yet dead, and carried her to a grove of trees in the deer park not far away.

Of course she's not dead yet. According to the narrative you gave, the Queen was never identified. There is a strong implication that the trembling old woman who got cut down was Min, but a historian should be able to say whether this was actually her or not. The palace ladies may have identified her but it sounds from your account like they were on the verge of hysterics. I'd think it entirely likely that they were shown a body and badgered by the marauding Japanese officers until they broke down. Was this old lady definitively the Queen, and can you give some citation?

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If the Japanese thought that their crime could be hushed up they were much mistaken. Some of the American missionaries' wives were the Queen's friends. A famous American newspaper man, Colonel Cockerill, of the New York Herald, came to Seoul, and wrote with the utmost frankness about what he learned.

Unfortunately, I can't find any reference to Colonel John Cockerill's writings on this wild, wooly Internet, except those of McKenzie. Granted, these may be lost to history, but I've given Google a healthy workout and come up short. I did find mentions of his dealings with the Korean exhibit of the Chicago World's Fair and that he killed a man in a newsroom shoot-out, but little else. Does McKenzie provide a reference note we can use to get to Cockerill's material?


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Posted: Oct 14 2005, 02:32 AM
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Of course she's not dead yet. According to the narrative you gave, the Queen was never identified. There is a strong implication that the trembling old woman who got cut down was Min, but a historian should be able to say whether this was actually her or not. The palace ladies may have identified her but it sounds from your account like they were on the verge of hysterics. I'd think it entirely likely that they were shown a body and badgered by the marauding Japanese officers until they broke down. Was this old lady definitively the Queen, and can you give some citation?
You said "There is a strong implication that the trembling old woman who got cut down was Min."
You're on the right track.

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Okamoto, who led the way, found a little woman hiding in a corner, grabbed her head, and asked her if she were the Queen. She denied it, freed herself, with a sudden jerk, and ran into the corridor, shouting as she ran. Her son, who was present, heard her call his name three times, but, before she could utter more, the Japanese were on her and had cut her down. Some of the female attendants were dragged up, shown the dying body, and made to recognize it, and then three of them were put to the sword.

The conspirators had brought kerosene with them.
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'A little woman hiding in a corner' is the Qween.
'Her son' is a 21 year old prince.

This site is good for nothing to Anglophone because of not English but Korean(Hangul).

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Does McKenzie provide a reference note we can use to get to Cockerill's material?
I regret to say that McKenzie did not provide a reference note.

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Documents and theses about Empress Myongsong's Assassination ...
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2) 大谷正 1990 「ニュ-ヨ-ク·ヘラルド新聞と閔妃殺害事件報道」 『專修史學』 22
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I guess that 'ニュ-ヨ-ク·ヘラルド新聞と閔妃殺害事件報道 (ie, The New York Herald and the report of Qween Min's murder)' gets a clue to the solution of a problem.
I will track down the missing(?) reports.

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Posted: Jan 10 2006, 04:31 PM
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No posts in over three months!

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Posted: Jan 10 2006, 05:11 PM
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No posts in the "Passing Moment in the Life of Gord" forum, but if you look in the PC Room Building you will find far more, as Gord is currently Building a PC Room (Go figure!), and everything related to that is going into the forum devoted to it.


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Posted: Feb 27 2007, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE (Gord @ Oct 9 2005, 09:07 AM)
I'm all for truthful stories

Maybe that's because you have a twisted view or serious problem in trying to understand different aspects of different cultures. If your neighbourhood koreans found out you were running this website to express your negativeness on their way of living, you would have been beaten to death during your sleep, and ended up as a headline for the next morning's choongang or chosun ilbo. And I would expect something like "A broke & desparate sorry-ass foreigner froze to death found in his dankanbang"
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Posted: Feb 27 2007, 10:41 AM
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One would be very hard-pressed to honestly suggest that my writings or the majority of information on my server are negative in nature.

Though I am curious why you would condemn my postings for being negative, but then turn around and post about a hypothetical situation involving my violent end. Very contradictory of you.
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Posted: Feb 28 2007, 12:29 AM
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QUOTE (ckrocks @ Feb 27 2007, 09:51 AM)
...you would have been beaten to death during your sleep, and ended up as a headline for the next morning's choongang or chosun ilbo....

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Wow! After spending time on this forum I seriously considered going to Korea, it seemed like an awesome place. Thank you, ckrocks, for enlightening me on just how violent it must be and saving me the trip.
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Posted: May 30 2007, 10:06 PM
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Hm... I don't know about that violent Korean syndrome CK is referring to. A couple of my 'foreigner' friends who visited korea have made comments in public akin to Gord's (aka "negative") and they came back alive. So... out goes your theory?


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